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	<title>Comments on: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly</title>
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	<description>The Weblog of Erik Arvidsson</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://erik.eae.net/archives/2008/03/06/11.09.51/#comment-103053</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for a late reply:

I think that in CSS 3, the new attribute selectors, &lt;code&gt;nth-child&lt;/code&gt; variants and pseudo-classes such as &lt;code&gt;:checked&lt;/code&gt; etc definitely can be useful, while not all the time.

With all respect to John, his post is interesting and definitely good information since I believe that those selectors are amongst the most common ones, but there a lot more web sites out there who use other selectors as well.

I think, just as it has been for other web browsers, if they get the general support into their CSS base then it will be a fairly easy feat to get it into &lt;code&gt;querySelectorAll&lt;/code&gt; as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for a late reply:</p>
<p>I think that in CSS 3, the new attribute selectors, <code>nth-child</code> variants and pseudo-classes such as <code>:checked</code> etc definitely can be useful, while not all the time.</p>
<p>With all respect to John, his post is interesting and definitely good information since I believe that those selectors are amongst the most common ones, but there a lot more web sites out there who use other selectors as well.</p>
<p>I think, just as it has been for other web browsers, if they get the general support into their CSS base then it will be a fairly easy feat to get it into <code>querySelectorAll</code> as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Arvidsson</title>
		<link>http://erik.eae.net/archives/2008/03/06/11.09.51/#comment-102991</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Arvidsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert: I don't agree with you.  CSS2.1 might miss some useful selectors but most of the CSS3 one are pretty useless, especially in the context of scripting.  Which ones do you think are crucial?  If these stops you from using querySelector then we need to make sure that MS understands this.

Also, see John Resig's post about CSS3 selectors that people actually use, http://ejohn.org/blog/selectors-that-people-actually-use/ If you remove the ones that people don't really use then there are not that many left for MS to add and they seemed to be willing to add parts of CSS3 as needed (they added box-sizing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert: I don&#8217;t agree with you.  CSS2.1 might miss some useful selectors but most of the CSS3 one are pretty useless, especially in the context of scripting.  Which ones do you think are crucial?  If these stops you from using querySelector then we need to make sure that MS understands this.</p>
<p>Also, see John Resig&#8217;s post about CSS3 selectors that people actually use, <a href="http://ejohn.org/blog/selectors-that-people-actually-use/" rel="nofollow">http://ejohn.org/blog/selectors-that-people-actually-use/</a> If you remove the ones that people don&#8217;t really use then there are not that many left for MS to add and they seemed to be willing to add parts of CSS3 as needed (they added box-sizing).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://erik.eae.net/archives/2008/03/06/11.09.51/#comment-102985</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
querySelector and querySelectorAll… nuf said
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, not really. I was impressed at first, but from what I've seen, their support only covers up to CSS 2.1 and &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; CSS 3 features. Since WebKit, and any other web browser implementing this soon, will naturally support CSS 3 completely as well, this means yet another check and workaround, which in many cases will render &lt;code&gt;querySelectorAll&lt;/code&gt; useless.</description>
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querySelector and querySelectorAll… nuf said
</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, not really. I was impressed at first, but from what I&#8217;ve seen, their support only covers up to CSS 2.1 and <em>some</em> CSS 3 features. Since WebKit, and any other web browser implementing this soon, will naturally support CSS 3 completely as well, this means yet another check and workaround, which in many cases will render <code>querySelectorAll</code> useless.</p>
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		<title>By: entropia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IE8 issues</title>
		<link>http://erik.eae.net/archives/2008/03/06/11.09.51/#comment-102984</link>
		<dc:creator>entropia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IE8 issues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t quite work right. PPK has a summary of CSS issues. John Resig talks about JavaScript. Erik Arvidsson gives his impressions. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s plenty more out [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don&#8217;t quite work right. PPK has a summary of CSS issues. John Resig talks about JavaScript. Erik Arvidsson gives his impressions. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s plenty more out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Arvidsson</title>
		<link>http://erik.eae.net/archives/2008/03/06/11.09.51/#comment-102983</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Arvidsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralf: You are correct.  Neither Opera 9.5 or nightly webkits supports HTML5 storage... I'll update my post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralf: You are correct.  Neither Opera 9.5 or nightly webkits supports HTML5 storage&#8230; I&#8217;ll update my post</p>
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		<title>By: Ralf Stoltze</title>
		<link>http://erik.eae.net/archives/2008/03/06/11.09.51/#comment-102982</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralf Stoltze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik,

You state that Opera implements DOM storage. Could you point me to a resource which supports this? Same with Webkit. I know they have DB storage, but DOM storage?
http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245

Side note: Quite funny to see that MS picked up the name "DOM storage" from the Mozilla guys. Seems like HTML 5's "Client-side session and persistent storage of name/value pairs" isn't that catchy. :)

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik,</p>
<p>You state that Opera implements DOM storage. Could you point me to a resource which supports this? Same with Webkit. I know they have DB storage, but DOM storage?<br />
<a href="http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245" rel="nofollow">http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245</a></p>
<p>Side note: Quite funny to see that MS picked up the name &#8220;DOM storage&#8221; from the Mozilla guys. Seems like HTML 5&#8217;s &#8220;Client-side session and persistent storage of name/value pairs&#8221; isn&#8217;t that catchy. <img src='http://erik.eae.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
		<link>http://erik.eae.net/archives/2008/03/06/11.09.51/#comment-102977</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you provide a link to where MS mentions future Beta and VML? 

Thanks,
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you provide a link to where MS mentions future Beta and VML? </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My IE8 makes 17/100 in Acid3... but, ugly too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My IE8 makes 17/100 in Acid3&#8230; but, ugly too.</p>
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